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Georgiadesite

A valid IMA mineral species - grandfathered
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About GeorgiadesiteHide

Formula:
Pb4(As3+O3)Cl4(OH)
The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.
Colour:
White, brownish yellow; colourless in transmitted light.
Lustre:
Resinous
Hardness:
Specific Gravity:
6.3
Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Name:
After Mr. Georgiadès, a Director of the mines at Laurium, Greece (in 1896). This is likely Georges Georgiadès, a graduate of the Paris School of Mines and who wrote 'La Vérité sur la Laurium grec' in 1896.
This page provides mineralogical data about Georgiadesite.


Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:
1677
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:1677:9
GUID
(UUID V4):
095a3f49-7601-45a8-b205-43ebc9db8760

IMA Classification of GeorgiadesiteHide

Classification of GeorgiadesiteHide

4.JB.70

4 : OXIDES (Hydroxides, V[5,6] vanadates, arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites, iodates)
J : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites; iodates
B : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites; with additional anions, without H2O
41.1.3.1

41 : ANHYDROUS PHOSPHATES, ETC.CONTAINING HYDROXYL OR HALOGEN
1 : (AB)m(XO4)pZq, where m:p > 4:1
22.2.13

22 : Phosphates, Arsenates or Vanadates with other Anions
2 : Phosphates, arsenates or vanadates with chloride

Mineral SymbolsHide

As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.

SymbolSourceReference
GgdIMA–CNMNCWarr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43

Physical Properties of GeorgiadesiteHide

Resinous
Transparency:
Translucent
Colour:
White, brownish yellow; colourless in transmitted light.
Hardness:
3½ on Mohs scale
Cleavage:
None Observed
Density:
6.3(3) g/cm3 (Measured)    6.39 g/cm3 (Calculated)

Optical Data of GeorgiadesiteHide

Type:
Biaxial (+)
RI values:
nα = 2.170 nβ = 2.170 nγ = 2.180
Max Birefringence:
δ = 0.010
Image shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness)
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:
Very High
Dispersion:
extreme
Optical Extinction:
Y = b; Z = c.
Comments:
2V very large.

Chemistry of GeorgiadesiteHide

Mindat Formula:
Pb4(As3+O3)Cl4(OH)

The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.

Crystallography of GeorgiadesiteHide

Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Class (H-M):
2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:
P21/b
Setting:
P21/c
Cell Parameters:
a = 13.803(10) Å, b = 7.910(2) Å, c = 10.812(4) Å
β = 102.68(3)°
Ratio:
a:b:c = 1.745 : 1 : 1.367
Unit Cell V:
1,151.68 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
1
Morphology:
Crystals stubby, pseudo-hexagonal tablets with a platy composite structure parallel to [100] (apparently due to lamellar twinning). {001} grooved and striated [010].
Twinning:
Apparent lamellar twinning on {100} and {104}

Crystallographic forms of GeorgiadesiteHide

Crystal Atlas:
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Georgiadesite no.1 - Goldschmidt (1913-1926)
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X-Ray Powder DiffractionHide

Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacingIntensity
3.096 Å(10)
3.955 Å(5)
3.164 Å(5)
6.33 Å(3)
5.30 Å(3)
4.031 Å(3)
3.773 Å(3)

Geological EnvironmentHide

Type Occurrence of GeorgiadesiteHide

Place of Conservation of Type Material:
National School of Mines, Paris, France; American Museum of Natural History, New York City, New York, 28427; National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 137839, 145938.
Geological Setting of Type Material:
N/A (occurred in altered lead slag)
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:
Reference:
Lacroix, A. and Schulten, A. de. (1907): Sur une nouvellle espèce minérale, provenant des scories plombeuses athéniennes du Laurium. Comptes rendus hebdomadaires des séances de l'Académie des sciences, 45, 783-784. (in French).

Synonyms of GeorgiadesiteHide

Other Language Names for GeorgiadesiteHide

Common AssociatesHide

Associated Minerals Based on Photo Data:
15 photos of Georgiadesite associated with ParalaurionitePbCl(OH)
5 photos of Georgiadesite associated with NealitePb4Fe2+(As3+O3)2Cl4 · 2H2O
2 photos of Georgiadesite associated with AragoniteCaCO3
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with CalciteCaCO3
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with DiaboleitePb2CuCl2(OH)4
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with GalenaPbS
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with PhosgenitePb2CO3Cl2
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with MatlockitePbFCl

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat GroupingHide

4.JB.CuyaiteCa2Mn3+As3+14O24ClMon. m
4.JB.BrattforsiteMn19(AsO 3)12Cl2Mon. 2/m : B2/b
4.JB.05Fetiasite(Fe3+,Fe2+,Ti)3(As2O5)O2Mon. 2/m : P21/m
4.JB.10ManganarsiteMn3(As2O4)(OH)4Trig.
4.JB.15MagnussoniteMn2+10(As3+O3)6(OH,Cl)2Iso. m3m (4/m 3 2/m) : Ia3d
4.JB.15UM1984-09-AsO:ClHMnMn10As6O18(OH)ClTet. 4/mmm (4/m 2/m 2/m) : I41/acd
4.JB.20ArmangiteMn2+26(AsO3)14(HAsO3)4(CO3)Trig. 3 : P3
4.JB.25NanlingiteNa(Ca5Li)Mg12(AsO3)2[Fe(AsO3)6]F14Trig. 3m (3 2/m) : R3m
4.JB.30AsbecasiteCa3(Ti,Sn4+)Be2(AsO3)6(SiO4)2Trig. 3m : P3c1
4.JB.35StenhuggariteCaFeSb(AsO3)2OTet. 4/mmm (4/m 2/m 2/m) : I41/amd
4.JB.40TrigonitePb3Mn2+(AsO3)2(HAsO3)Mon. m
4.JB.45FinnemanitePb5(AsO3)3ClHex. 6/m : P63/m
4.JB.50GebharditePb8(As2O5)2OCl6Mon. 2/m : P21/b
4.JB.55DerbyliteFe3+4Ti3Sb3+O13(OH)Mon. 2/m : P21/m
4.JB.55Tomichite(V,Fe)4Ti3AsO13(OH)Mon. 2/m : P21/m
4.JB.55GraeseriteFe3+4Ti3As3+O13(OH)Mon. 2/m : B2/m
4.JB.60Hemloite(Ti,V3+,Fe3+,Al)12(As3+,Sb3+)2O23(OH)Tric. 1 : P1
4.JB.65FreediteCu+Pb8(AsO3)2O3Cl5Mon. 2/m : B2/m
4.JB.75Ekatite(Fe3+,Fe2+,Zn)12(AsO3)6(AsO3,HSiO4)2(OH)6Hex. 6mm : P63mc
4.JB.75Szklaryite◻Al6BAs3+3O15Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pbcm
4.JB.85LepageiteMn2+3(Fe3+7Fe2+4)O3[Sb3+5As3+8O34]Tric. 1 : P1
4.JB.90BianchiniiteBa2(TiV)(As2O5)2OFTet. 4/mmm (4/m 2/m 2/m) : I4/mcm

Other InformationHide

Notes:
Soluble in HNO3.
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

Internet Links for GeorgiadesiteHide

References for GeorgiadesiteHide

Localities for GeorgiadesiteHide

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Locality ListHide

- This locality has map coordinates listed. - This locality has estimated coordinates. ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence. ? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. - Good crystals or important locality for species. - World class for species or very significant. (TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species. (FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties). Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality. Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).

All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Greece
 
  • Attica
    • East Attica
      • Lavreotiki
40 (in German) +3 other references
van Kalmthout (2012)
Gelaude et al. (1996)
Lacroix et al. (1908) +2 other references
Italy
 
  • Tuscany
    • Livorno Province
      • Piombino
Muenchener Micromounter-Lithothek
Slovakia
 
  • Košice Region
    • Rožňava District
      • Dobšiná
Ďuďa R. et al. (in Slovak with English abstract)
 
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