Georgiadesite
A valid IMA mineral species - grandfathered
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About Georgiadesite
Formula:
Pb4(As3+O3)Cl4(OH)
The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.
Colour:
White, brownish yellow; colourless in transmitted light.
Lustre:
Resinous
Hardness:
3½
Specific Gravity:
6.3
Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Name:
After Mr. Georgiadès, a Director of the mines at Laurium, Greece (in 1896). This is likely Georges Georgiadès, a graduate of the Paris School of Mines and who wrote 'La Vérité sur la Laurium grec' in 1896.
This page provides mineralogical data about Georgiadesite.
Unique Identifiers
Mindat ID:
1677
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:1677:9
GUID
(UUID V4):
(UUID V4):
095a3f49-7601-45a8-b205-43ebc9db8760
IMA Classification of Georgiadesite
Approved, 'Grandfathered' (first described prior to 1959)
First published:
1907
Classification of Georgiadesite
4.JB.70
4 : OXIDES (Hydroxides, V[5,6] vanadates, arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites, iodates)
J : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites; iodates
B : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites; with additional anions, without H2O
4 : OXIDES (Hydroxides, V[5,6] vanadates, arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites, iodates)
J : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites; iodates
B : Arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites; with additional anions, without H2O
41.1.3.1
41 : ANHYDROUS PHOSPHATES, ETC.CONTAINING HYDROXYL OR HALOGEN
1 : (AB)m(XO4)pZq, where m:p > 4:1
41 : ANHYDROUS PHOSPHATES, ETC.CONTAINING HYDROXYL OR HALOGEN
1 : (AB)m(XO4)pZq, where m:p > 4:1
22.2.13
22 : Phosphates, Arsenates or Vanadates with other Anions
2 : Phosphates, arsenates or vanadates with chloride
22 : Phosphates, Arsenates or Vanadates with other Anions
2 : Phosphates, arsenates or vanadates with chloride
Mineral Symbols
As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.
Symbol | Source | Reference |
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Ggd | IMA–CNMNC | Warr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43 |
Physical Properties of Georgiadesite
Resinous
Transparency:
Translucent
Colour:
White, brownish yellow; colourless in transmitted light.
Hardness:
3½ on Mohs scale
Cleavage:
None Observed
Density:
6.3(3) g/cm3 (Measured) 6.39 g/cm3 (Calculated)
Optical Data of Georgiadesite
Type:
Biaxial (+)
RI values:
nα = 2.170 nβ = 2.170 nγ = 2.180
Max Birefringence:
δ = 0.010
Image shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness)
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:
Very High
Dispersion:
extreme
Optical Extinction:
Y = b; Z = c.
Comments:
2V very large.
Chemistry of Georgiadesite
Mindat Formula:
Pb4(As3+O3)Cl4(OH)
The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.
The As was originally assumed to be pentavalent.
Crystallography of Georgiadesite
Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Class (H-M):
2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:
P21/b
Setting:
P21/c
Cell Parameters:
a = 13.803(10) Å, b = 7.910(2) Å, c = 10.812(4) Å
β = 102.68(3)°
β = 102.68(3)°
Ratio:
a:b:c = 1.745 : 1 : 1.367
Unit Cell V:
1,151.68 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
1
Morphology:
Crystals stubby, pseudo-hexagonal tablets with a platy composite structure parallel to [100] (apparently due to lamellar twinning). {001} grooved and striated [010].
Twinning:
Apparent lamellar twinning on {100} and {104}
Crystallographic forms of Georgiadesite
Crystal Atlas:
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X-Ray Powder Diffraction
Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacing | Intensity |
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3.096 Å | (10) |
3.955 Å | (5) |
3.164 Å | (5) |
6.33 Å | (3) |
5.30 Å | (3) |
4.031 Å | (3) |
3.773 Å | (3) |
Geological Environment
Paragenetic Mode(s):
Paragenetic Mode | Earliest Age (Ga) |
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Stage 7: Great Oxidation Event | <2.4 |
47a : [Near-surface hydration of prior minerals] | |
47d : [Arsenates, antimonates, selenates, bismuthinates] | |
47g : [Halogen-bearing surface weathering minerals] | |
Stage 10b: Anthropogenic minerals | <10 Ka |
56 : Slag and smelter minerals (see also #51 and #55) |
Type Occurrence of Georgiadesite
Place of Conservation of Type Material:
National School of Mines, Paris, France; American Museum of Natural History, New York City, New York, 28427; National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 137839, 145938.
Geological Setting of Type Material:
N/A (occurred in altered lead slag)
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:
Reference:
Lacroix, A. and Schulten, A. de. (1907): Sur une nouvellle espèce minérale, provenant des scories plombeuses athéniennes du Laurium. Comptes rendus hebdomadaires des séances de l'Académie des sciences, 45, 783-784. (in French).
Synonyms of Georgiadesite
Other Language Names for Georgiadesite
German:Georgiadesit
Spanish:Georgiadesita
Common Associates
Associated Minerals Based on Photo Data:
15 photos of Georgiadesite associated with Paralaurionite | PbCl(OH) |
5 photos of Georgiadesite associated with Nealite | Pb4Fe2+(As3+O3)2Cl4 · 2H2O |
2 photos of Georgiadesite associated with Aragonite | CaCO3 |
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with Calcite | CaCO3 |
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with Diaboleite | Pb2CuCl2(OH)4 |
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with Galena | PbS |
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with Phosgenite | Pb2CO3Cl2 |
1 photo of Georgiadesite associated with Matlockite | PbFCl |
Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat Grouping
4.JB. | Cuyaite | Ca2Mn3+As3+14O24Cl |
4.JB. | Brattforsite | Mn19(AsO 3)12Cl2 |
4.JB.05 | Fetiasite | (Fe3+,Fe2+,Ti)3(As2O5)O2 |
4.JB.10 | Manganarsite | Mn3(As2O4)(OH)4 |
4.JB.15 | Magnussonite | Mn2+10(As3+O3)6(OH,Cl)2 |
4.JB.15 | UM1984-09-AsO:ClHMn | Mn10As6O18(OH)Cl |
4.JB.20 | Armangite | Mn2+26(AsO3)14(HAsO3)4(CO3) |
4.JB.25 | Nanlingite | Na(Ca5Li)Mg12(AsO3)2[Fe(AsO3)6]F14 |
4.JB.30 | Asbecasite | Ca3(Ti,Sn4+)Be2(AsO3)6(SiO4)2 |
4.JB.35 | Stenhuggarite | CaFeSb(AsO3)2O |
4.JB.40 | Trigonite | Pb3Mn2+(AsO3)2(HAsO3) |
4.JB.45 | Finnemanite | Pb5(AsO3)3Cl |
4.JB.50 | Gebhardite | Pb8(As2O5)2OCl6 |
4.JB.55 | Derbylite | Fe3+4Ti3Sb3+O13(OH) |
4.JB.55 | Tomichite | (V,Fe)4Ti3AsO13(OH) |
4.JB.55 | Graeserite | Fe3+4Ti3As3+O13(OH) |
4.JB.60 | Hemloite | (Ti,V3+,Fe3+,Al)12(As3+,Sb3+)2O23(OH) |
4.JB.65 | Freedite | Cu+Pb8(AsO3)2O3Cl5 |
4.JB.75 | Ekatite | (Fe3+,Fe2+,Zn)12(AsO3)6(AsO3,HSiO4)2(OH)6 |
4.JB.75 | Szklaryite | ◻Al6BAs3+3O15 |
4.JB.85 | Lepageite | Mn2+3(Fe3+7Fe2+4)O3[Sb3+5As3+8O34] |
4.JB.90 | Bianchiniite | Ba2(TiV)(As2O5)2OF |
Other Information
Notes:
Soluble in HNO3.
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.
Internet Links for Georgiadesite
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References for Georgiadesite
Reference List:
Roland C. Rouse, , Pete J. Dunn, (1983) New data on georgiadesite. Mineralogical Magazine, 47 (343) 219-220 doi:10.1180/minmag.1983.047.343.12
Dunn, Pete J., Fleischer, Michael, Francis, Carl A., Langley, Richard H., Kissin, Stephen A., Shigley, Hames E., Vanko, David A., Zilczer, Janet A. (1984) New mineral names. American Mineralogist, 69 (7-8) 810-815 p.815
Localities for Georgiadesite
Locality List
- This locality has map coordinates listed.
- This locality has estimated coordinates.
ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence.
? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality.
- Good crystals or important locality for species.
- World class for species or very significant.
(TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species.
(FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties).
Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality.
Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Greece | |
| 40 (in German) +3 other references |
van Kalmthout (2012) | |
Gelaude et al. (1996) | |
Lacroix et al. (1908) +2 other references | |
Italy | |
| Muenchener Micromounter-Lithothek |
Slovakia | |
| Ďuďa R. et al. (in Slovak with English abstract) |
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Vrissaki Point slag locality, Lavrion slag localities, Lavreotiki, East Attica, Attica, Greece