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Ottré, Bihain, Vielsalm, Luxembourg, Wallonia, Belgiumi
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OttréVillage
BihainSub-municipality
VielsalmMunicipality
LuxembourgProvince
WalloniaRegion
BelgiumCountry

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Latitude & Longitude (WGS84):
50° 14' 56'' North , 5° 50' 11'' East
Latitude & Longitude (decimal):
Type:
Age:
485.4 ± 1.9 to 443.8 ± 1.5 Ma
Geologic Time:
Köppen climate type:
Mindat Locality ID:
279
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:2:279:1
GUID (UUID V4):
c3b2225f-6e74-4cdb-853b-bad3222cf720


Ottré is a village in the Belgian municipality of Vielsalm located in the province of Luxembourg in the Walloon Region. From 1823 until the merger of the municipalities in 1977, it was part of the municipality of Bihain.

Stone was mined here for a long time. It was here that ottrélite was first discovered.

The Golnay stream, a tributary of the Salm, has its source here.

Mineralisation in quartz veins cutting Upper Salmian (Ordovician) Mn-rich metapelites (phyllades) (Hercynian metamorphism).

South border of the Stavelot Massif.

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32 valid minerals. 2 (TL) - type locality of valid minerals.

Rock Types Recorded

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Detailed Mineral List:

Andalusite
Formula: Al2(SiO4)O
Colour: blue
Description: Hercynian metamorphism: 1-2 kb, 380°C. Langer et al. (1984) have shown that the blue colour is due to a charge transfer between Fe2+ and Fe3+.
'Andalusite-Kanonaite Series'
Ardennite-(As)
Formula: Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Bornite
Formula: Cu5FeS4
Carpholite
Formula: Mn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
'Chlorite Group'
Chloritoid
Formula: (Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Description: Hercynian metamorphism : 1-2 kb, 380°C.
Cryptomelane
Formula: K(Mn4+7Mn3+)O16
Davreuxite (TL)
Formula: MnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
Type Locality:
Habit: fibrous
Colour: creamy white to light pink
References:
Dickite
Formula: Al2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Habit: veinlets, masses, saccharoidal, platelets
Colour: milky to creamy white
Description: intimately associated with ottrelite, sudoite, pyrophyllite and/or quartz.
Euclase
Formula: BeAl(SiO4)(OH)
Colour: whitish
Description: inclusions of up to 2cm in massive quartz associated with pyrophyllite, ottrelite, and davreuxite. Visually it is only distinguishable from the quartz by its perfect (010) cleavage.
Gahnite
Formula: ZnAl2O4
'Garnet Group'
Formula: X3Z2(SiO4)3
Gold
Formula: Au
Hematite
Formula: Fe2O3
Kanonaite
Formula: Mn3+Al(SiO4)O
Kaolinite
Formula: Al2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Lithiophorite
Formula: (Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
Habit: botryoidal crusts in cavities in quartz (Fransolet, 1979)
Description: Contains up to 3.19% of CuO.
Magnetite
Formula: Fe2+Fe3+2O4
'Manganese Oxides'
'Mica Group'
Muscovite
Formula: KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Description: Existence of mixed-layer muscovite/paragonite. Hercynian metamorphism : 1-2 kb, 380°C.
Muscovite var. Sericite
Formula: KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Ottrélite (TL)
Formula: (Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Type Locality:
Colour: pistachio green scales or aggregates at the contact with the quartz vein
References:
Paragonite
Formula: NaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Description: intimately associated with muscovite
Pseudomalachite
Formula: Cu5(PO4)2(OH)4
Colour: dark green
Pyrite
Formula: FeS2
Pyrophyllite
Formula: Al2Si4O10(OH)2
Habit: lamellar
Colour: yellowish to greenish-white
Quartz
Formula: SiO2
Colour: colourless to milky white
Quartz var. Rock Crystal
Formula: SiO2
Quartz var. Smoky Quartz
Formula: SiO2
Rutile
Formula: TiO2
Habit: acicular, most often 2-3mm in size but up to 1cm in quartz veins
Spessartine
Formula: Mn2+3Al2(SiO4)3
Description: Hercynian metamorphism : 1-2 kb, 380°C.
Sudoite
Formula: Mg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
Todorokite
Formula: (Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
Colour: black
Description: XRD analysis by R. Van Tassel (pers. comm.)
Torbernite
Formula: Cu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O
References:
'Tourmaline'
Formula: AD3G6 (T6O18)(BO3)3X3Z
Turquoise
Formula: CuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
Vantasselite ?
Formula: Al4(PO4)3(OH)3 · 9H2O
Variscite
Formula: AlPO4 · 2H2O
Wavellite
Formula: Al3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O

Gallery:

List of minerals arranged by Strunz 10th Edition classification

Group 1 - Elements
Gold1.AA.05Au
Group 2 - Sulphides and Sulfosalts
Bornite2.BA.15Cu5FeS4
Pyrite2.EB.05aFeS2
Group 4 - Oxides and Hydroxides
Gahnite4.BB.05ZnAl2O4
Magnetite4.BB.05Fe2+Fe3+2O4
Hematite4.CB.05Fe2O3
Quartz
var. Smoky Quartz
4.DA.05SiO2
4.DA.05SiO2
var. Rock Crystal4.DA.05SiO2
Rutile4.DB.05TiO2
Cryptomelane4.DK.05aK(Mn4+7Mn3+)O16
Todorokite4.DK.10(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
Lithiophorite4.FE.25(Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
Group 8 - Phosphates, Arsenates and Vanadates
Pseudomalachite8.BD.05Cu5(PO4)2(OH)4
Variscite8.CD.10AlPO4 · 2H2O
Vantasselite ?8.DC.37Al4(PO4)3(OH)3 · 9H2O
Wavellite8.DC.50Al3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O
Turquoise8.DD.15CuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
Torbernite8.EB.05Cu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O
Group 9 - Silicates
Spessartine9.AD.25Mn2+3Al2(SiO4)3
Euclase9.AE.10BeAl(SiO4)(OH)
Andalusite9.AF.10Al2(SiO4)O
Kanonaite9.AF.10Mn3+Al(SiO4)O
Chloritoid9.AF.85(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Ottrélite (TL)9.AF.85(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Davreuxite (TL)9.BF.15MnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
Ardennite-(As)9.BJ.40Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Carpholite9.DB.05Mn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
Pyrophyllite9.EC.10Al2Si4O10(OH)2
Paragonite9.EC.15NaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Muscovite9.EC.15KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
var. Sericite9.EC.15KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Sudoite9.EC.55Mg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
Dickite9.ED.05Al2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Kaolinite9.ED.05Al2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Unclassified
'Chlorite Group'-
'Tourmaline'-AD3G6 (T6O18)(BO3)3X3Z
'Mica Group'-
'Andalusite-Kanonaite Series'-
'Garnet Group'-X3Z2(SiO4)3
'Manganese Oxides'-

List of minerals for each chemical element

HHydrogen
H Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
H CarpholiteMn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
H Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
H DavreuxiteMnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
H DickiteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
H EuclaseBeAl(SiO4)(OH)
H KaoliniteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
H Lithiophorite(Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
H MuscoviteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
H Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
H ParagoniteNaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
H PseudomalachiteCu5(PO4)2(OH)4
H PyrophylliteAl2Si4O10(OH)2
H SudoiteMg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
H Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
H TorberniteCu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O
H TurquoiseCuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
H VantasseliteAl4(PO4)3(OH)3 · 9H2O
H VarisciteAlPO4 · 2H2O
H WavelliteAl3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O
H Muscovite var. SericiteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
LiLithium
Li Lithiophorite(Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
BeBeryllium
Be EuclaseBeAl(SiO4)(OH)
BBoron
B TourmalineAD3G6 (T6O18)(BO3)3X3Z
OOxygen
O AndalusiteAl2(SiO4)O
O Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
O CarpholiteMn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
O Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
O CryptomelaneK(Mn74+Mn3+)O16
O DavreuxiteMnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
O DickiteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
O EuclaseBeAl(SiO4)(OH)
O GahniteZnAl2O4
O HematiteFe2O3
O KanonaiteMn3+Al(SiO4)O
O KaoliniteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
O Lithiophorite(Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
O MagnetiteFe2+Fe23+O4
O MuscoviteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
O Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
O ParagoniteNaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
O PseudomalachiteCu5(PO4)2(OH)4
O PyrophylliteAl2Si4O10(OH)2
O QuartzSiO2
O RutileTiO2
O Quartz var. Smoky QuartzSiO2
O SpessartineMn32+Al2(SiO4)3
O SudoiteMg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
O Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
O TorberniteCu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O
O TourmalineAD3G6 (T6O18)(BO3)3X3Z
O TurquoiseCuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
O VantasseliteAl4(PO4)3(OH)3 · 9H2O
O VarisciteAlPO4 · 2H2O
O WavelliteAl3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O
O Quartz var. Rock CrystalSiO2
O Muscovite var. SericiteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
O Garnet GroupX3Z2(SiO4)3
FFluorine
F WavelliteAl3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O
NaSodium
Na ParagoniteNaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Na Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
MgMagnesium
Mg Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Mg Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Mg Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Mg SudoiteMg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
Mg Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
AlAluminium
Al AndalusiteAl2(SiO4)O
Al Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Al CarpholiteMn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
Al Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Al DavreuxiteMnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
Al DickiteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Al EuclaseBeAl(SiO4)(OH)
Al GahniteZnAl2O4
Al KanonaiteMn3+Al(SiO4)O
Al KaoliniteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Al Lithiophorite(Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
Al MuscoviteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Al Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Al ParagoniteNaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Al PyrophylliteAl2Si4O10(OH)2
Al SpessartineMn32+Al2(SiO4)3
Al SudoiteMg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
Al Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
Al TurquoiseCuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
Al VantasseliteAl4(PO4)3(OH)3 · 9H2O
Al VarisciteAlPO4 · 2H2O
Al WavelliteAl3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O
Al Muscovite var. SericiteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
SiSilicon
Si AndalusiteAl2(SiO4)O
Si Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Si CarpholiteMn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
Si Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Si DavreuxiteMnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
Si DickiteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Si EuclaseBeAl(SiO4)(OH)
Si KanonaiteMn3+Al(SiO4)O
Si KaoliniteAl2(Si2O5)(OH)4
Si MuscoviteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Si Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Si ParagoniteNaAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Si PyrophylliteAl2Si4O10(OH)2
Si QuartzSiO2
Si Quartz var. Smoky QuartzSiO2
Si SpessartineMn32+Al2(SiO4)3
Si SudoiteMg2Al3(Si3Al)O10)(OH)8
Si Quartz var. Rock CrystalSiO2
Si Muscovite var. SericiteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
Si Garnet GroupX3Z2(SiO4)3
PPhosphorus
P PseudomalachiteCu5(PO4)2(OH)4
P TorberniteCu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O
P TurquoiseCuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
P VantasseliteAl4(PO4)3(OH)3 · 9H2O
P VarisciteAlPO4 · 2H2O
P WavelliteAl3(PO4)2(OH,F)3 · 5H2O
SSulfur
S BorniteCu5FeS4
S PyriteFeS2
KPotassium
K CryptomelaneK(Mn74+Mn3+)O16
K MuscoviteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
K Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
K Muscovite var. SericiteKAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2
CaCalcium
Ca Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
TiTitanium
Ti RutileTiO2
MnManganese
Mn Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Mn CarpholiteMn2+Al2(Si2O6)(OH)4
Mn Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Mn CryptomelaneK(Mn74+Mn3+)O16
Mn DavreuxiteMnAl6Si4O17(OH)2
Mn KanonaiteMn3+Al(SiO4)O
Mn Lithiophorite(Al,Li)MnO2(OH)2
Mn Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Mn SpessartineMn32+Al2(SiO4)3
Mn Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
FeIron
Fe BorniteCu5FeS4
Fe Chloritoid(Fe2+,Mg,Mn2+)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Fe HematiteFe2O3
Fe MagnetiteFe2+Fe23+O4
Fe Ottrélite(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)Al2(SiO4)O(OH)2
Fe PyriteFeS2
CuCopper
Cu BorniteCu5FeS4
Cu PseudomalachiteCu5(PO4)2(OH)4
Cu TorberniteCu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O
Cu TurquoiseCuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 · 4H2O
ZnZinc
Zn GahniteZnAl2O4
AsArsenic
As Ardennite-(As)Mn42+Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
SrStrontium
Sr Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
BaBarium
Ba Todorokite(Na,Ca,K,Ba,Sr)1-x(Mn,Mg,Al)6O12 · 3-4H2O
AuGold
Au GoldAu
UUranium
U TorberniteCu(UO2)2(PO4)2 · 12H2O

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